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Finding Parts for Antique Sewing Machines?

January 22, 2021

An old sewing machine.I have just acquired a Franklin treadle sewing machine, the number on it is 157717. I'm trying to restore this machine and do not know what year it is so that I can buy parts. I need a throat plate for it and the sheath, and probably also bobbins to go with it. I am sure that I will need other parts for it as I go along. I would appreciate all the help that I can get. I have included the two pictures front and back. Maybe this will help with finding out the age of this Franklin machine. Thank you very much for all your help.

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An old sewing machine.
 

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January 22, 20211 found this helpful
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Franklin machines are nice machines and you'll probably really like this one when you get it going.
Not all of the machines were made at the same factory so the model numbers may not be in the same place on every machine.
Since you are going to need several parts and maybe a manual I would like to suggest that you join one or more of the sewing forums as they have very knowledgeable members and can lead you through any problem you have. I really love this site as they have the machine expertise but so much more such as sewing tips or help as well as a lot of sewing information.

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They also love the Franklin machines.
They may want different pictures and especially a picture of the full machine showing the treadle part. Join (free) and you'll soon be on your way to getting answers you need and also reliable places to buy any part you need as well as instructions on how to fix it.
www.quiltingboard.com/.../

 
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April 9, 2013

Vintage sewing machine.Does any one know what size sewing needles I need for a Jones Rushby hand crank sewing machine 1920; serial# 268238 is the number on the machine? It came with 3 needles and no size on them or owner's manual. But, I have found some help online on how to thread the machine and how to take out the shuttle and thread it as well as how to fill the bobbin, but no one can tell me what size sewing needles I will need.

I do know that they are round with no flat side on them any help would be greatly appreciated.sewing machine needles
 

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April 11, 20130 found this helpful

Hi, I have a Singer hand crank sewing machine. (I LOVE it!) Mine uses the same needles in the current models. Try and see if this works for you. Happy cranking!

 

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April 16, 20130 found this helpful

You have a vibrating shuttle machine (wowsa, that is a genuine antique, they generally stopped building VS machines around 1910), and you're right that it's going to need specific needles that accomodate the way the shuttle 'swings' through the bobbin area during stitching. Also, you CANNOT use parts not milled for the VS machines, the parts really are not interchangeable between the VS and other type machines. (See below)

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You can try taking a needle with you to a sewing shop, they may carry the needles there. You can also do a search using the term 'machine needle other parts for Jones vibrating shuttle machine'-be sure to omit the punctuation marks.

Ebay also sells some parts for the various VS machines out there. Use the same search term there.

A good source for info (and maybe a user manual on a free download) about your machine is ISMACS-if you are new to the machine ISMACS may be the first place to look:

www.ismacs.net/free-sewing-machine-manuals-list...

Use the alphabetic search feature to look up Jones machines, then look for the manual listed for VS machines-sometimes you have to look at a couple of different manuals to find the one for your model, for example the VS2 manual may be what you're looking for but might not.

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Bookmark that site, there is a huge amount of info about all types of vintage and antique sewing machines on there!

Good luck, I hope you and your VS are back to sewing soon. There is growing interest in the VS machines, so it's good to see you asking about it. So many of us sew on the vintage and antique 66, 99, and variations of the 27s because those parts are pretty much interchangeable. As above, parts for the non-VS machines are NOT interchangeable with yours.

You have a very different machine that forms stitches in a completely different way than the lock-stitch or oscillating machines and putting the wrong parts in your machine can cause a lot of damage.

 

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April 16, 20131 found this helpful

Whoops, the model manual you are looking for doesn't use the initials VS, it uses CS. Use the ISMACS link, go to J, and you'll see Jones CS manuals-free download, looks just like your machine:)

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Also, the 'Rushby' part of your machine name is probably 'branding', something a lot of the sewing machine manufacturers did then and do now for department stores. Same machines, just with the branding, so the manual that looks closest to your machine is the one that will work even if it doesn't say 'Rushby'.

 
February 16, 20180 found this helpful

The manual for a Jones CS shuttle machine is extremely helpful. Now to try and find a replacement shuttle to make it perfect. Also needles!! (in case I break the 1 I have)

 
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June 22, 2018

I am currently on the hunt for cams that fit a Montgomery Ward 21 Jewel sewing machine. If anybody could help me locate some it would be greatly appreciated.


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June 23, 20180 found this helpful

Hi. My suggestion, and it works for me when I am looking for something unusual is to go eBay or Etsy and type in a generic search....for example Vintage Sewing Cams and look through the listings (provided there aren't thousands of listings that is then I may be slightly more specific).

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I say this because oftentimes vendors have no clue what they are selling and will have what you need but under a generic name. Also, sometimes they have things misspelled, and what I want will show up through the misspelling when I go more generic in my search. I have won several auctions for interesting items because the item name or company was spelled wrong and no one else found it!

I did an eBay and an Etsy search for you to see what I mean:

www.ebay.com/.../i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057...

www.etsy.com/.../vintage?q=sewing+cams&use_mmx=1&vintage_rewrite...

Hope this is helpful and that you find exactly what you need!

 

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June 23, 20180 found this helpful

I believe you may need the actual model number to be able to locate cams that will fit your machine.

  • In searches on eBay and Etna and even Google you will find quite a few vintage Montgomery Ward cams but very few of the sellers will know what model machines their cams will fit.
  • There is very little information on the boxes that hold the cams so you may have to go by looking closely at the cams and comparing them with any you may have.
  • Not sure how you can compare if you do not have any cams for your machines.
  • Do you have a manual? I have not seen the contents of an older manual for a machine that uses cams so not sure if that would be of any help.
  • I believe Montgomery Ward machines were made by several companies and it may be that some other models/brands may have interchangeable cams but obtaining this information may mean doing a lot of research and asking questions on different sewing machine sites.
  • I am going to list some links that may have some information you could use but you may need the model number for your machine if you ask questions on any of these sites. Most sites will require that you become a member but that is usually free and only requires n email address.
  • pages.sewing-machine-manuals.com/.../1922677073.html
  • www.askmehelpdesk.com/newthread.php?f=551
  • sewing.patternreview.com/.../12696
  • possumjimandelizabeth.com/.../collect_sewing_montward.html
  • This site is if you wish to send an email and ask questions about your machine. Hopefully this person will respond as he has a lot of sewing machine knowledge.
  • possumjimandelizabeth.com/index.html
  • Maybe you already know what you need and none of this is needed - hope so - as I have searched for cams before and they are very difficult to match to one model machine (Singer may be the exception).
  • Good luck with your search.
 
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