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I haven't found anything related on this set, only that they are Chinese. Does anybody know the value, history (age), or anything that looks alike?
Hope you can help, blessings.
If you run your finger over the top/sides, is it rough and uneven? I am thinking these are cloisonné, but it is hard to tell from the photos.
While this art form is ancient, I am thinking your pieces are modern reproductions based on the other things you have posted...but as I said in one of my other comments, identifying pieces like this are challenging at best.
These look like pieces I used to sell in the 1970s-1980s when they were new and a hot commodity. They were quite popular back then, although the colors that people favored were much brighter and cheerful. The colors on these are dull, which could make them older--again, almost impossible to tell from photos if the colors are truly dull or if the photos are just a tad dark.
Are they heavy or light weight? They all appear to be porcelain--would that be accurate?
Are the tops hinged? What do the hinges and screws look like if they are.
Let us know if you are able to learn more from the Facebook group. Thanks for sharing!
Porcelain marks remain one of the best means we have to identify the pieces. Correctly understood it is like a timestamp and sometimes like a fingerprint of the potter. So let's read the mark of your pieces.
Please help me identify this china. I believe that it may date back to 1857-1920 based on the mark; but I have not been able to match it to a pattern. Thank you in advance!
The brand is JHR Hutschenreuther Selb Bavaria. The brand was made between approx. 1814 to 1969. Names for their patterns are almost impossible to pin down (not sure if it is poor record keeping or that they were so fragile that many broke and then when they broke, no one had pieces left to sell that needed named.
I had a few of these for a client I tried to sell a few years ago. My listing called them JHR Hutschenreuther Selb Bavaria pink tea roses gold trim scallops. I don't remember what she got for them now--but I remember she was disappointed they did not fetch more.
It's been a few years and since the UPSP started having issues with damage, I stopped selling glassware online, so if you are asking to sell, you will need to double box them (wrap each piece in tissue, bubble wrap and its own box and then those boxes in another box with two inches around in both box layers so the pieces do not touch the sides.
If you are asking to sell and want values, you can compare what is current on eBay at the moment (using solds only).
If you are asking to buy replacements, you can search using the criteria I sold mine under--using more or less words.
Just a hint for searching--The name of the brand is hard to read so you may need to search Bavarian tea rose or even rose. Flippers are lazy people and often list things with barest of minimum of words.
Thanks for sharing!
The mark on your pieces was used from 1857 to 1920. You can see a confirmation of this on this website www.theoldstuff.com/
It is difficult to identify this pattern. I looked through all the patterns with photos on replacements.com, but I could not find your pattern. I think your pattern is not represented by a photo. You can read the description of each such pattern without a photo, but there are 239 such patterns on replacements.com. If you want to sell these pieces, then just compare with the price of pieces with a floral pattern, a similar edge and trim (gold) of plates with the same mark. The price of the plate is about $15, the bowl $30, the cup $15-20 www.ebay.com/
Write that you have 1857-1920 Hutschenreuther Selb Bavaria Pink Roses Gold Trim Plate/Bowl/Cup.
It appears you already have information about the mark and dates so it seems what you are looking for is a pattern name?
From information about this company and Replacements.com they either did not place names on most of their patterns or the actual records have been lost over time.
You said that you did research on Replacements.com but did you request information about your pattern?
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Replacements has a lot of pictures of this brand of china but only a very small percentage actually have names - most of their 'stock' pictures show only numbers or number codes.
Some sources say no name was given when the pattern had a 'short run' but I cannot verify that statement.
You do not ask about value so I'm not sure if you are just looking for additional information or if you plan to sell.
Value is very low on almost all kinds of 'fine' china and sales are usually very slow.
It also appears that gold/platinum trim pieces are not as popular as other styles. I'm sure you have checked all of the name auction sites for your pattern but if value is what you are looking for, most likely you will have to check out similar pieces (sold prices only for value) and decide for yourself what price you wish to use.
If these are the only pieces you have then it may be good to post them together.
You may have seen this site but it is interesting as to how many people do not know the pattern name:
I do NOT recommend paying this site for information but some questions/answers are free.
www.justanswer.com/
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Example of value:
When a beautiful tureen only sells for $15.49 - that is really low.
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Here is a link to eBay's sold listings:
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My great grandma Susan married in 1882. I was told she had this china before she married. It was passed onto me as I share her name. The coffee pot has a small chip in spout. 12 cups, (2 cups each have a tiny tiny chip)11 saucers, 11 breakfast plates, 2 serving plates, creamer, large sugar bowl (for sugar lumps I heard) and a medium saucer/bowl (I believe this is called a slop bowl for tossing cold tea/coffee and dregs before getting fresh brew).
I was going to put it into a garage sale, but I think it may be too valuable for that. HAVILAND & CO LIMOGES NAUTICAL ROPESTYLE Thanks in advance!
I need a general value for insurance for a set of this China of 101 pieces of French vianoud Limoges China sat. I believe it is from the 1930 era.
I'm looking for information about the origin of this pot?
I have a large set of 8 complete place settings; serving plates, dish, tureen, coffee stuff. How much is it worth?
This is what I found for Noritake 'Royce' 660 China to give you an idea of what it's priced @:
Your vegetable bowl is priced @ $33.99 here:
www.replacements.com/
More of your china is here:
www.replacements.com/
A 5 piece place setting is $17.95 here:
www.ebay.com/
One bread plate is $2.99 here: www.ebay.com/
6 Bread/butter plates here are $31.45:
www.etsy.com/
4 saucers here are $13.45:
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It's a really pretty pattern from the 40s.
I really have no idea what this is. My sister got it for me for my birthday 6 years back and I don't have a use for it. It looked like it could use a good home and I could use the money! I was just wondering what it would be worth
This is called "lusterware" and is a relish or candy dish. Very pretty! I would suggest a starting price tag of $15, using ebay and etsy as a guide.
It appears your dish may just be dirty but does it have any chips or flaws? This type of dish is pretty common on all of the selling sites and although some may be listed with higher asking prices, most of even the asking prices are below $40 which usually means the sold prices will be lower with exceptions of course.
I did find several pieces with the same or very similar mark so it does seem your piece is luster ware and not very valuable.
There are so many similar pieces listed for sale online that I would think these may be very slow selling items.
Some of these have the same or similar mark.
Here are a few similar pieces listed for sale on eBay:
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These are similar that have been sold so I believe your piece could be listed for $40 and best offer (if it cleans up and has no flaws).
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I have sold these before and they rarely sell for more than $10 (plus shipping). They must be packaged extremely carefully as they are very fragile. It will need to be wrapped in tissue, bubble wrap, then cardboard OR if you aren't using cardboard, put it in one box with the tissue and bubble wrap, then packing peanuts so it does not touch the ends of the box, THEN put that box in a second box with packing peanuts to protect the inner box.
The usual headline for these is Vintage Porcelain Lusterware Celery Relish Trinket Dish Pink Roses Germany (and then the length in inches and or CM).
Be sure to take all 12 photos if you sell it on eBay and if there is even a hint of crazing or cracks or chips to photograph that carefully and make note of it in 3 places.
I actually stopped selling pieces like this a few years ago because of the intensity of packing and the low prices.
Now the few I have left in my resale piles go to the consignment stop where I get half of what she sells them for--which is usually2-3 dollars net for me.
Sorry. They are lovely!! Enjoy it if you can!! I can almost bet you have other things of more value that could sell if you need to make some extra money!
I believe I have 8 sets of this china as given to me by my mother some years ago. I can find some of this pattern on-line, but can't really get a clear sense of how much - if anything - it's really worth.
Help?
