My cousin has a set of this pattern. I think it might be the Claytonpattern, but the stamp doesn't match the ones I've found online. Could you help me with the identification, including age and value?
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This does seem to be named 'Clayton' as Replacements is famous for their knowledge of china patterns.
For a general idea of the value of individual pieces you can see what they have listed for sale:
www.replacements.com/
They are closed at the present time but here is a link where you can send your pictures and questions after April 1st. They will need to know the number of place settings and any accessorizes available and will tell you if they are interested in buying this set. Their price will be low but it will give you a starting point of true value (they may not be interested in buying - that would be sad as it would indicate it is not considered even a medium seller).
"The wreath element in the mark was used from circa 1914 until 1940. Some Noritake china has the word "Nippon" on it however that would be used only until 1921 when import rules required the use of the word "Japan" on such export items. The Noritake stamp was presented in green, blue, gold, and magenta.
From 1921 until World War II, Noritake pieces were stamped with "Japan" or "Made in Japan"."
There is a lot of history behind Noritake - different names/different marks all mean something so be sure when doing research you get everything exactly as this set.
The mark on this china indicates it was produced from 1914 through 1940. It may be difficult to pinpoint the exact date this pattern was produced.
Here is a link to another site that may be interested in buying this set. Contact them through this link:
www.robbinsnest.com/
You can always do research online but asking prices are not current value prices and you may not find a 'sold' set of this pattern.
Another member - Pghgirl - will check this out and provide a lot more information on true value and selling this set.
cybergrannie gave you lots of great info!! I did an image search on Replacements and they have 3 versions of the pattern--what I have found it this is how they differentiate the ones they can pinpoint the year from the ones that they can't.
Here is the link for what I am seeing:
www.replacements.com/
Some people prefer the older versions because the colors were better and they want their sets to match--like my beloved Homer Laughlin pieces there were often slight color and even very slight pattern variations when they reproduced patterns year over over year.
As for value, there are no sold examples in recent months and many unsold examples with plates/bowls at an average of 7.00 each, serving pieces an average of $40 each, and multi-piece sets in the range of $600 each. This is on eBay US and eBay UK.
The market was soft for chinaware BEFORE the coronavirus crisis...now it has almost ceased.
If you are asking to sell, look at all of the unsold prices and try to sell yours starting at 1/4 to 1/2 off the UNSOLD prices.
Not a good time to sell. Maybe when the world settles and right before the Thanksgiving holiday you can see if you can fetch more for them.
They are very pretty!! Cheerful!!
Thanks for this information.
One of my biggest 'complaints' with Replacements is that they rarely show the marks on their china (or other items). "
Several years ago I asked this question and they replied that showing marks seemed to generate too many questions so they only show marks when someone specifically asks for this. But - you have to show the marks when you ask them a question.
I thought this pattern seemed familiar so checked my notes and found a response from Replacements:
"The name of the pattern is indeed Clayton (all same "pattern") but there are several versions (probably made at different locations) so we numbered the less popular styles and made notes of the differences."
They did not mentioned marks so not sure about that.
I thought the dishes marked 'Clayton' was her set because it seems to have gold trim but when looking at their listings again I see they state made 1951-1952 but when doing research this mark does not show that. So - either there were reproductions made with this mark in 1951-1952 (which is highly unlikely) or Reproductions has made an 'error'.
They do make errors but usually quickly correct them when a correction is requested (with documentation of course).
Here is what each pattern shows:
notice difference in color of leaves and gold trim vs gray trim.
Clayton
by Noritake
Item#: 65846 Pattern Code: N CLAY
Description: Pink Flowers/Gray Leaves, Asymmetrical
Pattern Number: 502
Pattern: Clayton by Noritake
Status: Discontinued. Actual: 1951 1952
N517
by Noritake
Item#: 68152 Pattern Code: N N517
Description: Pink And Yellow Flo Wers, Gray Trim
Pattern: N517 by Noritake
Status: Discontinued.
Item#: 138062 Pattern Code: N N1166
Description: Pink&Yellow Flowers, Gold Trim
Pattern: N1166 by Noritake
Right now, I'm not sure which code this set would fall under but I will discuss the 1951-1952 years when they are up and running again.
I hope some of this information is what someone is looking for but as Pghgirl always says;
"Thanks for asking this interesting question and let us know what you find out."
Go to my favorite site for china, - https://www.replacements.com - This lovely Noritake Clayton pattern pieces range from $4.99 to $33.99 a piece!
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