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Giuseppe Armani Porcelain Doves?

A figurine of two white doves.I purchased this piece at a thrift store but have been unable to find any Armani pieces with the same mark as on mine. Other pieces that look like mine have the crown in their mark. Does anyone know anything about this mark?

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The marking on the back of a figurine.
 

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March 20, 20211 found this helpful
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The Neapolitan "N" and crown pottery mark were never trademark protected. There have been many variations with different fonts of the "N" and different styles of the crown or coronet. Technically any porcelain maker could use this mark and claim to be Capodimonte porcelain. And many have.
I found a mark similar to yours. It seems to me that your doves have the same initials G.A. on the back of the tail. As I understood, the owner of that figurine also cannot identify his figurine.

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I think you have Giuseppe Armani figurine, just the mark has just been changed a little. For example, look at the mark of this G. Armani Florence Love Doves Lovebirds Small Figurine Statue www.ebay.com/.../174199465714 The mark is slightly changed too.

 
 
 
 

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March 20, 20211 found this helpful
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There are many pieces listed for sale online that claim to be Giuseppe Armani pieces but the GA Society estimates that over 50-60% (and maybe even more) are not true GA pieces. The GA marks were never legally protected so basically anyone can use the marks but it is illegal to copy original GA pieces and put their marks on the pieces.

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That is why you will find copies of the original pieces (like the doves) that will have 'similar' marks that will fool most 'casual' buyers who know nothing about true GA pieces.
The GA society states they do not search out most online 'fakes/knock-offs' as it is too time consuming and ineffective when pieces are being sold in small numbers (from one seller) and value is always low. They also contend that this is now a case of 'buyer beware' so they do not get involved.

Most sellers probably believe the items they're selling are GA pieces and know very little about 'knock-offs'.

I believe that is the case with your doves as there does not appear to be any official mark that resembles yours.
You have to look at every piece of the mark to be able to know the differences.
The GA official does not show a mark anywhere close to your mark that has any resemblance to a 'crown'.

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It's true that marks were placed on pieces by the artist that 'painted' the piece so there will be slight differences but nothing like this.
Check out the official marks for yourself:
appletreedeals.com/.../

I was provided with this site that sometimes will respond about GA marks. You might try contacting them to see what they can tell you.
thetaylorgallery.com/.../

 

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March 22, 20210 found this helpful
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I am curious what the site says. I have been so obsessed with trying to find the mark, that I neglected to get on my good screen and really look at the figure itself. Had I done that first, I would have had what I feel now to be true--that it is an homage piece to the brand and not an original.

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Why? The paint on the figure does not (to me) have the G.A. quality. Works by this brand are crisp in their paint lines and the colors are not muddied. The eyes on your figure look off, and the berries and leaves the birds are sitting on do not look professionally made (again (to me).

Just my opinion, but I feel this is an homage piece to the brand and not an original.

You can sell a piece like this without using any brand and let the buyer buy it for the content, maybe. This is a fine line if it is an homage piece--like homage purses, if you have one of those and the company finds out, they make you destroy it. I will have to ask my business lawyer if the rules are the same in a case like this, if it is truly not an GA original.

Anyhow...post back with what you learn! Thanks for sharing!

 

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March 21, 20211 found this helpful
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The fact is that not this Neapolitan "N" with crown mark, but Armani's initials is proof of his authorship. The "N" crown mark is that of any maker who wishes to be associated with the mark of Capodimonte. And as I already wrote, because there is no trade mark restriction for this "N" crown mark, so quality of make varies.

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Now look at the crown in the mark of this Giuseppe Armani figurine: www.worthpoint.com/.../giuseppe-armani-pheasant-signed-1729387789 Agree that the crown in this mark looks more like dashes.
But I think that only an expert, upon a detailed examination of your figure, will give a final conclusion.

 
 
March 22, 20210 found this helpful

Thank you everyone for providing information. I truly appreciated the education on this topic. Nice to know so many people have knowledge on this topic as I was struggling to find anything.

 

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March 20, 20210 found this helpful

They have the crown w/ the 'N' mark:
www.ebay.com/.../313312409415?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt...

 
March 20, 20210 found this helpful

Thank you for your response however I am trying to find or understand this mark as it is different than any other Giuseppe Armani piece I can find. Lots with the crown and N but none with this mark. May it is a fraud?

 

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March 20, 20210 found this helpful

It looks like it could be a Giuseppe Armani, this piece and other similar are listed $30 to the upper $100's. Here is one on the upper end. - www.ebay.com/.../323915730452?chn=ps

 

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March 20, 20210 found this helpful

If it were genuine it would be marked as such. You most likely have a knockoff.

 

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