I inherited a complete set of this Noritake china pattern from my uncle who was stationed in Japan in 1951. I have searched the internet for weeks and have not seen the pattern with "that" specific stamp on the back.
The set has never been used and is in pristine condition. I would like to be able to find a value for it.
Thank you.
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It seems that some people call these flowers dogwood but others are calling them gardenias but dogwood seems correct.
Noritake (and other companies) would take a popular design (like the dogwood) and just change a few things - like the trim or the rim (gold or platinum) or shape and have an all new pattern.
I believe your pattern can be found under Toke Kaisha also.
Here is some information about your pattern/mark:
"1947 Noritake
Nippon Toki Kaisha
Mark: "Komaru" (overcoming difficulties) symbol crowned by 'Noritaké' in handwritten logotype format and below ´ 'Made in Japan'. This mark seems to have been in use 1947-1949. Noritake seems to have used 3 similar marks, one stating 'Occupied Japan', one 'Made in Japan', and one 'Nippon Toki Kaisha'."
Just a lot of 'talk' to most people but it shows that all 3 marks were used and it appears there is no real difference in the three and I cannot see any difference in the value. But this does give you a very accurate date line: 1947-1949.
Replacements has Mystery #220 but show it simply as 1940-
www.replacements.com/
Here is Mystery #220 (claimed by seller) but has the mark 'Made in Japan'.
www.ebay.com/
This #220 was sold on Etsy and it has the same mark as yours.
www.etsy.com/
PGHgirl has provided all the information you need to sell your set. Hope it all turns out well with your set.
I closed my answer before I really finished as I wanted to point out that sellers may 'claim' their pattern is Mystery #220 or we may have still not identified your pattern correctly as the only piece that I have found that is exactly like yours is the sold platter on Etsy.
I believe this could also make your set microwaveable which may make it easier to sell. I'm really not sure about this but it appears that later sets - without trim - are microwavable.
I'm sure that others have found this pattern without trim but this one platter was all that I found.
I would like to thank everyone for their very generous responses to my question. What a wonderful forum. I appreciate the time and effort that you all put forth to assist me.
Domo arigato !
There are three very similar Noritake patterns, Dogwood by Noritake, Edgemont by Noritake and one they (Replacements.com) calls N1790 by Noritake.
The colors on my computer are poor so if you can confirm which is your pattern, we can look at SOLD on eBay other sources to figure out a market value.
Let me know which pattern you have.
I know you said there are challenges with the back mark--maybe you can tell by Replacements which is which.
Thanks!
Hello, thank you for the suggestions. After checking your suggestions, I can say, pretty much for certain that it is N1790. Do you have any idea of it's value?
Thank you
After a little more research, thanks to you pointing me in the right direction, it would seem that the pattern is called Noritake Mystery #220. It has ALL of the features including identical back stamp.
That is awesome that you have the name and an exact match!
The value will be determined two ways--finding the exact set on eBay sold (going to be a challenge as I saw none today--tomorrow there could be) or basing the value on Replacements retail costs.
So for example, if Replacements expects to sell a piece at 10.00 retail, your value in selling it on your own will be 1/8 to 1/4 of their retail price--so 1.25 to 2.50 a piece. Often serving pieces have a higher resale value than other pieces--meaning sometimes you can get 1/4 to 1/2 of "retail".
I used to sell dishes online and stopped because there was too many issues with breakage. Sad because at one point in time, they were good sellers (about 10 years ago). Then it was best to piece out sets--like 4 bowls, 4 plates, serving pieces on their own. It would take a while, but that was the best way to make a profit.
Fast forward to now...and it is different. I have one set left (another Noritake pattern) and I can't give it away. Right before COVID, I had an agreement with a shop to take it on consignment and I would get 50% of their selling price (she was thinking--for my set which is not as lovely as yours) of $50-$75 for all my pieces--I think I have service for 8) plus a few serving pieces--I was all ready to take it and they closed for lockdown and never reopened.
So, my best guidance is now that places (at least where I am) are starting to reopen, ask around to consignment stores to see if they will sell the set for you.
They will price it for your market (so 1/8 to 1/4 of "retail") and you will get a percent of sale.
OR
If you are comfortable with people coming to your home, you can offer them on a local Facebook Sale Want and Trade group, or local buy sell group for the whole set. Start high (add up all of your pieces at the high end) and then take best offer.
Post back how your sale goes! Blessings!
Found this note on an exact match: "Noritake Dogwood has been discontinued. The platinum trim on this pattern means it is not safe for use in the microwave." www.microwavecookingforone.com/
Thank you for your kindness trying to help me, however, this set does not have the gold/platinum trim. Otherwise it matches exactly.
I can tell you that the demand for this has decreased greatly in recent years. Many people cannot sell.
Replacements.com can identify it and tell you how much they will pay you. That figure is a lot less than they will charge a buyer
Thank you for your response. I've had it in storage for 10 years and just decided to research it.
This looks like Noritake Edgemont China, there are a few pieces online for sale , through Etsy, eBay and Replacements . - here is a set of bowls for $24 www.etsy.com/
I found a plate similar to yours, price $ 20.
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You could expect to get $20 from these plates at the least. They are quite nice
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