I need a general value for insurance for a set of this China of 101 pieces of French vianoud Limoges China sat. I believe it is from the 1930 era.
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I couldn't find your exact set online. There are some similar on Etsy:
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I know this fella I went and sold china to. I had a few sets. One was Noritake. He told me that most china he buys off of others, he can't give much for it. His reason was clear, he couldn't sell it to anyone. He said that people just don't come searching for it. He gave me about 60 dollars for the set, then again Noritake is not uncommon. To determine value of yours, I'd say some extensive research is needed.
I hope you all the luck to find the value!
Your insurance company can help you with a value for your plates. They always value above current retail.
The replacements.com official name for them seems to be:
They also offer this info:
Item#: 247945 Pattern Code: LIOLIO4
Description: Tan/Black Geometric Edge, Smooth, No Trim
Pattern: LIO4 by Limoges Florale
Status: Discontinued.
If your company asks for a retail value (meaning they don't have one), you could reach out to Replacements customer service and see if they can tell you how much they would sell them for if they had them in stock.
That would be retail value.
Personally, and I have some valuable china sets I inherited, a rider for the sets will cost me way more than it ever would cost to replace them.
China buying is a buyers market as no one wants china so people sell it for very little. That is probably not what you wanted to hear, but I am being honest about the current market.
Post back what you decide. Blessings!
Nice set and appears to be from their earlier productions.
Your picture of the mark is very blurred but I believe the mark on this listing may be like yours (not your pattern):
Replacements has a pattern shown that at first glance appears to be your pattern but it appears that your pattern/set has gold trim and the dishes shown on Replacements has no trim (it's possible the plate shown has gold but not the other pieces). They also describe the set as:
No trim and Limoges Florale
Description: Tan/Black Geometric Edge, Smooth, No Trim
Pattern: LIO4 by Limoges Florale
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This may be named Florale but the real Limoges Florale looks like this: This 76 pieces has been listed for sale for almost 2 years and has not sold. Asking price; $90
The marks on this set/pattern shows the name: Limoges Florale
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This is just as information as I do not believe any of this will make a difference in the value of your set.
If you are wanting a value for insurance purposes then you will need something more reliable and accurate than what the value is on today's market.
The only way an appraisal of replacement value would be beneficial for insurance purposes is if you have 'replacement value' insurance coverage. If you have this type then you can take pictures of your set (or anything), add an official paper showing value and place one set in a safety deposit box and send one set to your insurance company to place in your file.
You can get a paper from an online site that will serve that purpose. You may have to pay for one but the cost can be as low as $19.
There are free sites that you can try also:
The word Limoges does not refer to a specific manufacturer. Limoges actually refers to the area in France where the fine porcelain pieces were produced. Kaolin, also known as China clay, was found in the late 1700s at St. Yreix, near the city of Limoges in the region of France known as Limousin. Then there were about 30 other Limoges china factories in France. You can read about history and production of Limoges porcelain
here: espritporcelaine.fr/
Limoges porcelain is considered the finest hard-paste porcelain in the world because of three very specific characteristics: local natural ingredients (kaolin, feldspar & quartz), exquisite translucence and French exquisite standard in decoration. One of the distinctive traits of Limoges china is that no two pieces will be alike due to the firing and production process. So when a collector speaks of having a one-of-a-kind item, this will be the truth.
Let's identify the backstamp (mark) of your set. Unfortunately, the photo with mark is not clear, so I can only guess. I think that the green letter inside the green wreath that appears to be a V is actually a W, below it is written Philadelphia, Paris, New York. This means that the set was imported into United States by Philadelphia's John Wanamaker between 1914 and 1932. Wanamaker's were a very impressive store also known as one of the first department stores. It is a bit rarer to find a large set + marked and sold at Wanamaker's.
Another mark (black) is very difficult for me to understand. It seems to me that it says VIGNAUD and maybe year, LIMOGES, then J P, in the middle L, below FRANCE. Please clarify if it says something else. This mark indicates the porcelain was made by Vignaud porcelain factory in Limoge, by Jean Pouyat. www.pop.culture.gouv.fr/
About the pattern.
Pattern Code: VIGVIG94
Description: Green Border, Pink Flowers
Pattern: VIG94 by Vignaud
You can check it here: www.replacements.com/
About the price. Full sets of china are more valuable than single pieces or smaller groupings. Also, the price depends on the pattern: if it is top-notch decor featuring finely detailed and skillful hand painting. I think you now understand why determining the price of your set is not so easy.
A Limoges set of 101-pieces was sold for 725$ www.therealreal.com/
So, you have VIGNAUD LIMOGES Green Border Pink Flowers VIG94 Wanamaker's full set 101 Piece, the price is about 725$, if in good condition 1800$ www.justanswer.com/
eBay has prices here: www.ebay.com/
These links may help you determine the value of your china:
www.replacements.com/
www.ebay.com/
www.etsy.com/
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